Friday, July 4, 2008

Of pandas and watches

And a new voice has joined the fray. I would be elated, except that it is just an extension of the family that is already reading. So welcome, Allie.

She posts a comment about design and points out:
"...many well-known scientists must constantly suppress the suspicion that there is design (poiema) in the universe. For example, he quotes Richard Dawkins, an "arch-Darwinian" who says, "Biology is the study of complicated things that give the appearance of having been designed for a purpose." And he quotes Francis Crick, the co-discoverer of DNA, who says, "Biologists must constantly keep in mind that what they see was not designed, but rather evolved."
This may well be true. But that does not make it true in any way. The Earth appears flat until you take a longer look. The sun appears to rise and set each day. These are things that were, at one time, apparent to everyone, but as knowledge grew, we understood the truth. Just because design seems to be the easiest and most intuitive solution, don't forget that our perception is limited and we have developed technology and technique to overcome our shortfalls.

Also, I would like to mention that even if there was an intelligent designer (as it seems your argument is implying) it is no guarantee that it is the intelligent designer that you are imagining. And, of course, I see no reason to imagine a designer at all.

2 comments:

Allison Jarvis said...

NATHANIEL states:
"Let go of god and you will feel the wind in your hair for the first time!"

ALLIE states:
I would like to know how you have let go of God. You are obviously quite obsessed with Him. I have read all your arguments from your past blogs for this obsession. Something like: you were like a blind man before and now you see and you just want to shout it from the roof tops. Well fine, you have shouted it from the roof tops. All the readers you will probably ever have, have read your message that you are free from a God that, to you, doesn’t exist and if he did, you would hate Him anyway.
So then move on, go do something useful with your life instead of obsessing about a God that in your eyes, doesn’t exist. You have stated “You have to play your part differently when you find out that this is not a dress rehearsal, but the main event. Break a leg!” So go out and do it, Nathaniel: play your “part” differently. Be the best moral person you can be just because it’s a nice thing to do, if this is your final act. Sell all YOU own and go out and help the dying children in Africa, for example. Don’t waste your precious one short existence on us Christians, who in your eyes, are just wasting theirs on a non-existent Being. (But you being an atheist, I guess why would you care if those African children live or die? When the napalm burns their skin and they become bleeding burned mess is that not simply a chemical reaction in your eyes? The meaningless molecules that make up their bodies are simply rearranged).
But even if you don’t do such a radical thing as Africa, why spend so much time proving the non-existence of something, which you have obviously spent countless hours so far doing, in writing and carefully thinking about what to say in your blogs? Why not do something more somewhat constructive with life, such as build bridges or run marathons or even collect string? My point is that your overwhelming devotion to the debunking of that which does not exist to you, and furthermore writing long blogs articulating your position and ridiculing those who hold such beliefs, is a strange and dangerously parasitic activity to me. But I guess for atheists, suppressing the Truth in unrighteousness is very hard work, huh? It has ended up consuming you.

Andrew and I aren’t trying to debate or scare you back into liking or believing in Christianity. We are saddened to see all the falsehood in the lies that you have been fed from men such as Dawkins and Hitchens. I myself just see a man who has become anything but happy, anything but “feeling the wind” in his hair, someone who is now sadly wasting his life away for no cause whatsoever.
We do love you and pray for you and we also know you probably despise and mock us wholeheartedly for that. But we will continue to do so until the day we die.

-Allie

jljarvis said...

looks like i missed some fireworks this weekend.